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05-31-2022, 01:37 PM | #6951 |
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What other new performance value option exists with 6MT and AWD? I would've cross-shopped, but no other manu plays in this space today. Golf R is materially more costly and basically unavailable.
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05-31-2022, 01:46 PM | #6952 | |
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That the 2.0 Accord Sport is competitive is more a statement on it than the WRX, IMO. |
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05-31-2022, 02:10 PM | #6953 |
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05-31-2022, 02:20 PM | #6954 |
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Comparing '21 VA and '22 VB C&D Test Results
C&D test results comparing '21 VA and '22 VB, respectively:
https://www.caranddriver.com/subaru/wrx-2021 https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...y-the-numbers/ |
05-31-2022, 02:34 PM | #6955 |
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GR Corolla as well but that as with the Golf R is a more performance focused car. I would argue that the WRX is less of a performance car and more inline with the Mazda 3 AWD where it's a sporty version of the basic car as both of these cars do without performance brakes, suspension, and their ultimate performance levels are pretty low.
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05-31-2022, 02:52 PM | #6956 | |
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05-31-2022, 04:00 PM | #6957 |
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Pm nighthawksti. He knows about the tech sections.
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05-31-2022, 04:12 PM | #6958 |
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Hey mods, is there a PM function on this website I could use to directly contact you with any questions I may have about the forums? Or can I ask you a question in a thread in hopes that you may see it while also airing my grievances about the state of N&R.
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05-31-2022, 04:24 PM | #6959 | |
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A circuit edition is not a direct comparison to the point it’s stupid to make it. |
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05-31-2022, 04:25 PM | #6960 |
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I would wager that neither are enthusiast cars. I hate to break it to you but enthusiast cars don't have CUV ground clearance, CUV black plastic cladding, or 6000 RPM redlines.
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05-31-2022, 04:42 PM | #6961 | |
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05-31-2022, 05:29 PM | #6962 |
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05-31-2022, 05:40 PM | #6963 | |
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HeavyD mentioned GRC as a more "performance focused" WRX alternative like the Golf R. Setting aside the fact that GRC doesn't exist today, the most "performance focused" and Golf R-like variant IS the circuit edition withe diffs. |
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05-31-2022, 11:22 PM | #6964 | |
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don't forget, the 2.4 is only putting out 12-13 lbs if boost in the stock ecu tune and the 2.0' WRX's can hit 21 lbs bone stock. The 2.4 has WAY more potential to be quite a bit faster with just a tune getting the boost up |
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06-01-2022, 06:19 AM | #6965 | |
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Ugh.. boost is a measure of how much pressure is building up behind the valves. It's not a measure of volumetric efficiency.. stop trying to compare two engines unless you've got boost maps and head flow data.
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Congrats on your new car. Go chat with your fellow '22 owner best buds in General about it. I totally get liking the black sheep of the WRX family.. I wrote the FAQ on the 2008.. and it's still my favorite Subaru that I've driven (and I've owned & driven a lot of them). Cars are often more than their spec sheet, but this is magazine racing central, and the WRX isn't competitive here. |
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06-01-2022, 08:36 AM | #6966 | |
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I doubt too many people (even here on an "enthusiats'" forum) have ever looked at a compressor map, much less understand it. If people truly understood just how narrow the efficiency range of turbomachinery was, there would be far fewer questions/comments around lag vs midrange power vs top end chuff. There is absolutely zero surprise that matching a turbocharging unit to provide more low and mid-range, is going to result in drop off at the higher end... |
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06-01-2022, 10:50 AM | #6967 |
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It was already too high.
You do not make a performance car better by raising it up. What good does having a flat four engine in the chassis that you have bragged about keeping the COG low due to the boxer only to raise the damn thing up. This car is is like a middle movie of a trilogy. It is an afterthought, thrown together to get us to something better later. |
06-01-2022, 02:31 PM | #6968 | |
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The '22 has a lower COG with slightly improved ground clearance. How is that a bad thing?
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06-01-2022, 02:53 PM | #6969 |
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Think how much lower CoG could've been had the WRX been... lower.
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06-01-2022, 02:55 PM | #6970 | ||
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Contrary to some here, I actually don't hate this car. I honestly think it's going to be great for the Subaru fan that thinks the Crosstrek or Impreza is dog slow as it blends in with all the CUV's out there and will go about its business without garnering attention to and from work and the grocery store. I just dislike that they called it a WRX as this car has a similar issue to the new Integra in that it's strayed too far from what the name once stood for. It would have been better as an Impreza Sport or something like that as then it would be much easier to accept and less insulting to enthusiasts that can see when an automaker is pulling the wool over their eyes. |
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06-01-2022, 03:05 PM | #6971 | |
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Star Wars, ESB is the best Star Wars movie. many say that the Dark Knight was the best of that series. Austin Powers: the spy who shagged me was peak Austin Powers. Terminator 2 is one of the best movies of all time, it holds up without even watching the others. too many others. |
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06-01-2022, 03:32 PM | #6972 |
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Ground clearance on the '22 WRX is lower than all STIs but the VA. It's also lower than the Elantra N which everyone seems to think handles exceptionally well. It's also wider than prior gens.
Isn't how the thing actually handles more important to folks here? It's been shared before, but the guys at Flatirons Tuning and Racecomp Engineering had some valid criticisms but plenty of good things to say on handling in this loooooong video (i.e., it was remarkably like the new BRZ). |
06-01-2022, 03:34 PM | #6973 | |
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f the flares and rear bumper. |
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06-01-2022, 03:41 PM | #6974 |
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06-01-2022, 03:42 PM | #6975 | |
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there will be a good amount of power unleashed with more boost and a bigger downpipe with this engine over what the 2.0 could do. The 2.4 in the WRX also has a lot stronger rotating assembly in the Block than the 2.0 does , so it won't be "boost limited" at the expense of connecting rod strength like the 2.0 is. Regardless the 2.4 WRX is going to continue the tradition of appearance and engine modding that has made the wrx cars so iconic, and it will probably do it better than any WRX prior. |
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