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Old 08-06-2009, 07:45 AM   #1
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Default Vision Z Concept : New BMW Sports Car Concept Spotted!! ("Vision Z / Z6")

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We bring you photos of what could very well be the the BMW sports car concept to be unveiled at the Frankfurt Motorshow next month!!

As we reported earlier (http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=286929), there is a "sustainable sports car concept car"
expected to debut at the 2009 Frankfurt Motorshow in September, according to Dr. Klaus Draeger, member of BMW's board of management.

It will feature sustainable design and material elements and is supposed to be a study in a future BMW 2 seater sports car which will contain a nexus of BMW's latest environmental / efficiency technology -- anything from lightweight materials, stop-start systems, regenerative braking, direction injection).

Whatever this car ends up being, the clearly seen shape is gorgeous to my eyes! I can only imagine it will look even better once all the little details are uncovered.

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The car is extremely important not as only in Efficient Dynamics but also in design as traditional BMW design elements are interpreted further and they will make it to production cars.
The first car you will see with un upturned grille will be the next generation BMW 1er Coupe and followed by the BMW Z2 Roadster and Coupe.

The car is a four door and you are looking at a further addition to our progressive series the GT.

The Sports GT in Progressive Movement :
The BMW 6er .

Taing an almighty leap from the much maligned by the media BMW Concept Z9 Gran Turismo at the IAA in September 2009.
BMW simplified the styling , smoothing out the proportions , and liposuctioning the fat and adding conventional typical everyday features such as eliminating the concept door openings to present the first 6er Coupe since the successful , popular E24 6er at the IAA in 2003.

Unveiling the 6er Coupe presented it's audience witha striking highly modern design , muscular proportions , a typical sports car feel with the driver placed way back and a (at launch) powerful V8 engine - 645i and eventually followed by a six cylinder 630i , with progressive changes involving the upgraded V8 (650i) and as an addition recently to boost it's intentions the highly proper 635d.

Even though the car was green-lighted in 2001 before seeing the light of day in 2003 , The BMW 6er has become a classic BMW in the modern sense. Even by todays standards the 6er looks modern if not very futuristic? even the controversial (to some) rear end and bootlid has successfully been intergrated to the cars overall appeal.

Today a 6er has that ability to make you stop and stare as it passes , muscular especially when equipped with the large wheels intended for this car invokes its especially individually tailored bodywork and the right footwear gives it a purpose.
Following the Coupe , BMW went further for it's intended market and introduced a 6er Cabrio , again beautifully designed , especially with a very unique soft-top design and great proportions and specific design requirements when removing the Coupe hardtop leaving the design intact with a completely flat area strectching from the bootlid to the A pillar.

Since it's introduction in early 2004 the 6er Coupe and Cabrio have become successful additions to BMW's premium market strategy , sales have been especially strong in key areas of europe , The US market and the UK.

A feat BMW are hoping to repeat with the next generation of the 6er, aiming at the great character and individual design as the current 6er , the next 6er takes an evolutionary approach instead of a completely radical new beginning. But there are elements and many features BMW plan to incorporate into it's effectively premium Sports car concept.

As well as taking on the role of a Coupe , BMW will follow the lead set from it's extremely successful integration of a collapsible hardtop in the E93 3er Cabrio by replacing the existing 6er Soft-Top with collapsible hardtop. A Hardtop for this segment indicates premium and BMW aim to capture the attention and premium image the 3er Cabrio inherited in the premium sports car segment.

An additional model currently being developed for decision is an additional model of the BMW "progressive" segment "GT" which will be a Premium Sports car with four doors , not a typical sedan , coupe shape , The GT 6 will be a car that will be a "progression" of a sports coupe - It will also be the first BMW Coupe with a hatchback and four doors which will open hinged from the rear ,strictly a four seater , each passenger position and the driver are seperate with a large sweeping console seperating the cockpit.

Exterior wise will follow with a different look to the 6er Coupe and Cabrio which take their wide grille opening and headlights which sit above the grille positioned on each corner , similar to the current car from the CS Concept Car , although not direct interpretations there is a resemeblance. The headlights when looked side on are heavily raked into the front wings to give a more dynamic sporting look , typical of the 6er flared wheel arches remain intact and will retain the 6ers muscular proportions. at the lower level of the flanks there is more sculpture which gives a connection to the latest 7er and 5er , A strong shoulder line is typical on this car again inverting into the rear lights.

Although forgoing the current cars stepped bootlid . The new car receives an integrated bootlid although design elements integrate an evolutionary look to the rear end with the licence plate again relegated to the rear bumper.As the Cabrio forgoes the current car and it's unique soft-top. The F13 recieves a no compromise design related collapsible hardtop.
When we say "No Compromise" it means the same exact formula the designs put forward to the engineers on the E93 that the body had to be completely flat along the boat line and no stepped up rear end to accomodate the hardtop. BMW understanding that in this segment you have to have a beautifully engineered to perfection feel and seeing how the 3er stacks up to it's competition , especially if you compare the E93 3er to the Lexus IS C you can understand the requirement for prefection especially in the premium sports car segment.

Although the car inherits a 3 piece hardtop , everything that goes against a hardtop is designed and engineered in this car.

Engine choices will remain consistent with the current car with the choice of the Twin-Turbo Six Cylinder and V8 of 326PS(635i) and 407PS(650i) respectively.

Diesel choice will fall on two models the lower Six cylinder diesel (635d) and the indevelopment and destined for this car the Tri-Turbo Six Cylinder diesel delivering a 700Nm and 354PS.

BMW will offer a Hybrid model being a mild hybrid as destined for the X6 and 7er later this year (655i)

The about shift in the 6er programme will incorporate the latest 8speed Transmission as well as a 7 speed DCT Transmission.

To make the 6er appeal more to Sporting enthusiasts a new damping system will offer 4 different sport settings from comfort right through to performance , including an option for efficient performance. Allowing the car to drive frugal and efficient.

BMW "Efficient Dynamics" Will of course be engineered into the car utilising typical areas as Stop-Start and Brake Energy Regeneration.

Driving enthusiasts will take well to the new 6er if they believe the current car is too tame for a 6er. BMW want to really set the cat amongst the pigeons and offer a very establishing cross continent GT that goes as well as it looks so as soon as the driver pushes the start button , and presses that accelerator he knows that he is in a very dynamic sports car. To which with a press of button the driver can choose a setting that fullfills their requirements.

The drivers cockpit takes it's cues from the latest Z4 and replaces the upright look of the current car with a driver integrated facia , The main centre air ducts are almost flat on the dash with the iDrive screen integrated to the top of the dash but without the current cars seperate pod.

As far the M6? There will be an M6 but final suggestion to specification has not been decided. If the M6 does come BMW will offer the M6 in all 3 body styles.

F12 BMW 6er Coupe
F13 BMW 6er Cabrio
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This sketch by member Robo Squirrel is said (by Scott26) to be very close to the vehicle underneath the covering:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=289289
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Old 08-06-2009, 09:47 AM   #2
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the front 1/2 gotta be a mustang ......
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Old 08-06-2009, 11:11 AM   #3
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the front 1/2 gotta be a mustang ......
The sketch...maybe. The concept itself... EVO X.

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Old 08-06-2009, 11:13 AM   #4
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definitely a bmw evo x
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Old 08-06-2009, 11:26 AM   #5
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I'll gamble the front end is a cardboard box job to disguise the outline. That almost looks low like a Fisker Karma; maybe it's electric?
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Old 08-06-2009, 11:59 AM   #6
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The proportions of it are absolutely great - longish hood, short deck with very short overhangs. The details on the other hand can make or break the look of this car. If the recently released Z4 is the direction that the styling is going to go, then this could be one heck of a nice looking coupe.

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Old 08-06-2009, 01:04 PM   #7
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This is the hybrid sport coupe, many pictures unwrapped out there
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Old 08-06-2009, 01:13 PM   #8
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looks like another X6-ish SUV monstrosity. *shrug*
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Old 08-06-2009, 02:03 PM   #9
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Looks big and heavy yet again.
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Old 08-06-2009, 02:20 PM   #10
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That looks sweet.

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Old 08-06-2009, 02:28 PM   #11
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... direction injection...
Isn't that called a steering wheel?
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Old 08-06-2009, 03:06 PM   #12
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looks like another X6-ish SUV monstrosity. *shrug*
Proportionally looks nothing like an SUV.
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Report: BMW spied in transport isn't new sustainable concept



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Along with the recent shock announcement that BMW was quitting F1 after the 2009 season, the automaker also announced a new focus on "sustainability and environmental compatibility". This doesn’t mean that BMW’s future model range will be limited to unexciting fuel misers. Nothing could be further from the truth, as the automaker will be showcasing a new sustainable sports car concept at this September’s Frankfurt Motor Show. But images revealed earlier this week have been discounted by BMW, according to new reports.

A mysterious prototype was spotted in transport outside a BMW design study yesterday in Germany and was thought to be the upcoming Frankfurt concept. Not much detail can be seen, although the concept car does share some similarities with last year’s M1 Homage supercar concept.

A new report from Autocar says BMW officials have dismissed the concept spotting as a five-year-old design study used to test aerodynamics developments. If that's the case, however, one has to wonder why the need for the semi-secrecy? Surely five-year-old designs are either in use or rejected as ineffective. It could simply be a clever misdirection to help preserve the car's surprise until its Frankfurt reveal.

But regardless of the accuracy of the spy photos, BMW is working on a sustainable sports car concept, and we can expect to see it before the end of the year.

Late last year a high ranking insider revealed that BMW was working on a “green” super-sports car based along the lines of the M1 Homage concept. Then, early last week, BMW development board member Dr Klaus Draeger revealed to AutoTelegraaf that the company was planning to unveil a sustainable sports car concept at the upcoming Frankfurt event.

The concept will pack the latest in BMW EfficientDynamics technology, but rather than just showcasing powertrain advancements it will feature sustainable design and material elements.

According to previous reports, BMW is studying the viability of the project, with the ultimate goal to create a two-seater sports car that showcases all of firm’s most sophisticated environmental technology. A limited production run would be timed for release at the end of 2012, giving cars like the top-selling Audi R8 and upcoming Mercedes Benz SLS AMG Gullwing some healthy competition
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Looking pretty good. Kind of like that girl with a paper bag and a case of beer.
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Courtesy of IAABlog and BMW.TV we have the first teaser video of the BMW Concept which will be unveiled next month at the Frankfurt Motor Show.

And for the first time, one of the rumors around the Vision Concept has verified: the concept name will be BMW Vision EfficientDynamics!

The teaser video doesn’t show much, other than a teaser photo at the end that we can’t really make anything out of it. But what we know for sure is that the marketing slogan will still be “Joy”. According to IAAblog, more teaser images and information will be revealed on Friday.

Stay tuned! Video after the jump!








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Default The Outlandish BMW Vision M Next Concept Is a Driver-Focused Hybrid Supercar

The Outlandish BMW Vision M Next Concept Is a Driver-Focused Hybrid Supercar


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The Need For Electric Cars Just Killed The BMW Supercar

The BMW Vision M Next Has Been Scrapped Because EVs


When BMW revealed the 2019 BMW Vision M Next Concept, it served a couple of purposes. The official purpose was that it represented BMW’s take on how “driving pleasure might look in the future,” but it was also said to preview the future of BMW’s M-badged models and the company’s new hybrid powertrain. However, this debut happened six months after it was discovered that BMW was planning a 700-horsepower hybrid supercar to take on Ferrari and Lamborghini, among others. When purists and enthusiasts put 2+2 together, it made sense that the M Next Concept could move into production and that the long-awaited supercar would likely be a reworked i8 M Shortly after that news, it was reported that the i8 M was canceled, but it was never confirmed – at least not until now, anyway.

BMW Apparently Can’t Afford to Build a Supercar, So the Vision M Next Is Dead

The Need For Electric Cars Just Killed the BMW M Next Supercar
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The most recent word that the spiritual successor to the classic BMW M1 – the production version of the BMW M Next Concept, aka the I8 M – was canceled came back in late April of 2020.

Of course, nobody wanted to believe it, despite the fact that it originated from BMW Blog which was quote its own sources. The internet has since been silent and has largely forgotten about the upcoming BMW Supercar, but now we can say that there’s a good chance that the project has been scrapped altogether.

This most recent report comes via Car Magazine, which quotes a member of BMW M’s R&D team. In short, BMW has dropped the ball on electrification, so the company must pour all of its resources into developing EVs – a decision that has, essentially, cannibalized what would have been the BMW supercar the world has been craving for nearly four decades (the M1 went out of production in 1981).

The Need For Electric Cars Just Killed the BMW M Next Supercar
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“The Bavarian Motor Works are latecomers to the EV scene, and the same applies unfortunately to autonomous driving. Mid-term, our only stable competitive advantage is ride, handling, and road-holding. But the biggest challenge by far is cost, which is why the board has buried the projected halo car.”

Does this move by BMW make sense? If you take into consideration the belief that the production version of the Vision M Next supercar was to be based on the i8 and maybe even called the i8M, it kind of does. Despite the cries for a proper BMW supercar, the i8 itself didn’t exactly break any sales records. It sure did garner a lot of attention from the media, but the number of people that actually bought one fell far short of BMW’s expectations. Then, you also have to consider BMW being forced to take on Porsche, Audi, Tesla, Mercedes, and other mainstream automakers (luxury or not) in the middle of an EV war.

The Need For Electric Cars Just Killed the BMW M Next Supercar
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Without a strong lineup of EVs, should they really take off as half the world predicts, BMW could find itself without a true means to compete for the first time in a very long time. BMW can’t afford to make the same mistake that it did with the i8, and a supercar at this point in time would be full of risk. So, while we may see a BMW supercar again someday, for now, you’ll just have to settle with the BMW M8 or maybe the 1000-horsepower 2024 BMW M5 EV, as that’s the closest you’re going to get any time soon.

2019 BMW Vision M Next specifications
Motor Four-cylinder + electric motors
Horsepower 591 HP
0 to 100 km/h 3 seconds
Top Speed 300 km/h (186 mph)
Electric range 100 km (62 miles)
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