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Old 07-04-2020, 04:40 AM   #276
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Mercedes with a new livery as well and it looks secksay

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Old 07-04-2020, 03:49 PM   #277
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The grid:


Pos Driver Team Time Gap
1 Bottas Mercedes 1:02.939 153.755 mph
2 Hamilton Mercedes 1:02.951 0.012
3 Verstappen Red Bull 1:03.477 0.538
4 Norris McLaren 1:03.626 0.687
5 Albon Red Bull 1:03.868 0.929
6 Perez Racing Point 1:03.868 0.929
7 Leclerc Ferrari 1:03.923 0.984
8 Sainz McLaren 1:03.971 1.032
9 Stroll Racing Point 1:04.029 1.090
10 Ricciardo Renault 1:04.239 1.300
11 Vettel Ferrari 1:04.206
12 Gasly AlphaTauri 1:04.305
13 Kvyat AlphaTauri 1:04.431
14 Ocon Renault 1:04.643
15 Grosjean Haas 1:04.691
16 Magnussen Haas 1:05.164
17 Russell Williams 1:05.167
18 Giovinazzi Alfa Romeo 1:05.175
19 Raikkonen Alfa Romeo 1:05.224
20 Latifi Williams 1:07.757

Mercedes 1,2. what else is new?
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Old 07-04-2020, 04:48 PM   #278
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I forget, Sergio wasn't a pay driver, was he?

Interested to see how last years mercedes do against the non merc cars.

Anyone have any opinions if what they've done goes against the spirit of the rules/sport?

I'm pretty meh but, I guess it shows how lazy modern engineers are.
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Old 07-05-2020, 09:21 AM   #279
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There's a rumor out that the Ferrari had to redesign their
engine and its is down on power.
Notice that all Ferrari power cars are struggling.
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Old 07-05-2020, 11:35 AM   #280
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I am absolutely no fan of Hamilton, but the five second penalty is bull****
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Old 07-05-2020, 12:33 PM   #281
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I am absolutely no fan of Hamilton, but the five second penalty is bull****
Why?

Albon was ahead at mid-corner and on track-out. At some point you have to say "he's got me" and fight another day. It might have been tough to re-pass Albon given the tire situation, but still...
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Old 07-05-2020, 12:40 PM   #282
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I thought 5s was fair. Ham could have avoided that.
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Old 07-05-2020, 12:50 PM   #283
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That race was definitely NOT boring.
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Old 07-05-2020, 12:58 PM   #284
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Great race, how many times have we seen Hamilton boot someone off the track? I just can’t believe they started charging him time for it. Hamilton and Mercedes are the sorest winners in the paddock. Mercedes and their $$ has done more to damage the sport.
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Old 07-05-2020, 12:59 PM   #285
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There's a rumor out that the Ferrari had to redesign their
engine and its is down on power.
Notice that all Ferrari power cars are struggling.
No Ferrari engine or sensor failures
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Old 07-05-2020, 03:10 PM   #286
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Great race, how many times have we seen Hamilton boot someone off the track? I just can't believe they started charging him time for it. Hamilton and Mercedes are the sorest winners in the paddock. Mercedes and their $$ has done more to damage the sport.
It's called racing and Albon should have known better than to think Hamilton will not defend his line and let him through. That's why Albon is still a rookie. He doesn't know when he should attack and he's attacking at all the wrong times. Just because there "might" be room to get by before the pass, doesn't mean you'll have room at the pass.
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That race was definitely NOT boring.
But not necessarily for the right reasons.

We missed out on a battle on pace / strategy when VER had his issues.
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Old 07-05-2020, 03:56 PM   #288
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That race was definitely NOT boring.
One of the better F1 races in a while now. I realize the race got a little less interesting when Max went out, but the number of DNF's and mechanical failures was somewhat unexpected. That always makes things a little more unpredictable. I don't think anyone guessed Bottas, Leclerc, and Norris on the podium.
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Old 07-05-2020, 04:12 PM   #289
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Pos Driver Team Laps Gap
1 Bottas Mercedes 71 1h 30:55.739
2 Leclerc Ferrari 71 + 0:02.700
3 Norris McLaren 71 + 0:05.491
4 Hamilton Mercedes 71 + 0:05.689
5 Sainz McLaren 71 + 0:08.903
6 Perez Racing Point 71 + 0:15.092
7 Gasly AlphaTauri 71 + 0:16.682
8 Ocon Renault 71 + 0:17.456
9 Giovinazzi Alfa Romeo 71 + 0:21.146
10 Vettel Ferrari 71 + 0:24.545
11 Latifi Williams 71 + 0:31.650
12 Kvyat AlphaTauri 69 Retired
13 Albon Red Bull 67 Retired
Raikkonen Alfa Romeo 53 Loss of Wheel
Russell Williams 49 Loss of Power
Grosjean Haas 49 Brakes
Magnussen Haas 24 Brakes
Stroll Racing Point 20 Engine
Ricciardo Renault 17 Overheating
Verstappen Red Bull 11 Electrics

Again Mercedes cars has issues with this track but there was no one there to
capitalize on it this time. Both Red Bulls dropped out and Ferrari car is crap.
Max could've won this race.
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Old 07-05-2020, 05:10 PM   #290
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If you had told me yesterday that a Ferrari would be on the podium, I would not have believed you.
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Old 07-05-2020, 05:18 PM   #291
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If HAM didn't punt ALB and the other Red Bull didn't crap out, wouldn't have either. Ferrari just lucked out. That may be all they can count on this year.
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Old 07-05-2020, 05:32 PM   #292
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If HAM didn't punt ALB and the other Red Bull didn't crap out, wouldn't have either. Ferrari just lucked out. That may be all they can count on this year.
Albon shouldn't have tried to make that pass, it's on him. Don't blame Ham. Rookie
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Old 07-05-2020, 05:44 PM   #293
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Albon shouldn't have tried to make that pass, it's on him. Don't blame Ham. Rookie
Dafuq? Albon was ahead and faster on the exit. 100% on Ham.
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Dafuq? Albon was ahead and faster on the exit. 100% on Ham.
No fast enough to out run Ham's line. So no, it's a total Rookie move and you don't see those from the "adult" drivers, only kids. It was not a clean pass. Albon didn't have enough speed or distance to clear it without interference.
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If you had told me yesterday that a Ferrari would be on the podium, I would not have believed you.
Not just Ferrari, but McLaren too!

Too bad we couldn't have a full season of Merc, Ferrari, Red Bull, and McLaren all competing at the same level. That would be fun to watch.
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Old 07-05-2020, 09:43 PM   #296
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Bad move by Race Point not pitting Perez, He could've got 2nd.
He was a sitting duck.( forgot about the 5sec penalty)
Albon had a shot of winning if not got punted off.
Come on Haas, Brake failure at lap 25, and later lap 50.
Poor Kimi. 1 point by AR may be the only point they get this year.

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Old 07-05-2020, 09:43 PM   #297
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Dafuq? Albon was ahead and faster on the exit. 100% on Ham.

Going to have to agree with Counterfit on this one. Seriously doubt the Mercedes was understeering and no way HAM wasn't aware ALB was going to attempt the pass - especially seeing their positions coming out of the corner and how far ahead the Red Bull was before the contact. If the positions were reversed, you can bet HAM would have been throwing a major hissy fit over the radio and ALB given a bigger penalty. The race officials also ruled HAM at fault, but of course, not everyone will agree with their decisions.
If anyone shouldn't have attempted a ill-advised pass it would have been VET - who is far from a rookie.
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Old 07-05-2020, 10:04 PM   #298
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Why?

Albon was ahead at mid-corner and on track-out. At some point you have to say "he's got me" and fight another day. It might have been tough to re-pass Albon given the tire situation, but still...
Illegal, but I've certainly seen much worse offenses get no penalty (driving the other guy off the track, for example). Here Albon just didn't' drive off.

But anyway, I don't love Hamilton, and anything that makes for a better championship is fine by me.

But sure, I think most would say that was on the weak side of penalties.
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Old 07-06-2020, 03:02 PM   #299
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I'm not a big fan of penalties, and I definitely don't think penalties should go into whether someone meant to do something or not. I think penalties encourage whining and finger pointing. It's racing, let them race.

Pretty good race though. It's always more fun to watch drivers battling it out on the track instead of just watching cars dropping out because of mechanical failures. But it was filled with unpredictability nonetheless. And it was really good to see Lando end up on the podium!
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Old 07-06-2020, 03:10 PM   #300
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1st race of the season and the stewards must of been napping again.
Perez gets penalized 5 sec. on lap 26 for speeding in the pit lane and didn't announced it
until a few laps left in the race. ( it used to be a dive thru )
Is it really that hard to determine if he speeding in the pitlane?
Why the delay?
edit: He may of speeding when the after Kimi's crash. The cars were routed through the pit lane.

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