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Old 08-06-2008, 07:26 PM   #26
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Sweet.
Does this mean that the rear dual wishbone suspension is better now too?
As in it won't be falling off at rallys...

Overall love the changes so far.
Good thing about subaru is they try to adapt the models year to year and improve over it a significant amount IMO.
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Old 08-06-2008, 08:09 PM   #27
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Where can I get a wrx grill emblem? I personally think that is a tasteful new addition.
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Old 08-06-2008, 08:30 PM   #28
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Actually you are incorrect in places here. The transmission is strengthened so again we have another upgrade to the 5-speed. The exhaust is revised and the turbo is the same size as that of the 2007 STI, just with different housings. The suspension is completely new, however. Shocks, springs and sways are all new and much stiffer with better valving. The grille is the STI grille, and we get the STI rear wing on the hatch with the sedan getting the "wangan" style wing standard. Also, gone are the RE92s, now we get Dunlop SPs, a very nice tire indeed.
This is not "The very same car" as the 2008, sorry.
I will post up driving impressions when the embargo is lifted.
owned...

also yes how is the resale value going to go up on an 08 wrx when the 09 is a better car at (assuming) the same price point? if anything you car will decrease in value if you own a 08 wrx.
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Old 08-06-2008, 08:59 PM   #29
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If they don't come out with SPT struts within the year I will be getting the ones for the 09!
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Old 08-06-2008, 09:40 PM   #30
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Damn, sucker punch to the nads.
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Old 08-06-2008, 10:04 PM   #31
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I kinda want to trade my suby in for the 09
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Old 08-06-2008, 10:32 PM   #32
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I swear to god this is the twilight zone! Its the EXACT same car as the 08's in terms of appearance... EXACTLY the same. But now all of the sudden all of its detractors are now loving the car. This is what I now term the "Malibu Stacy Effect." Malibu Stacy gets a new hat and the masses go nuts over something that they were previously hating.

Just IMAGINE all the paint chips that car got!!

It just hit me too... That all of the sudden my resale value on my 08 just went up by 15% now that everyone loves the looks of the... >cough< new WRX.
I think that as far as styling is concerned his point still remains.. many have already switched to these visual cues and I don't recall seeing a everyone saying "man that's a good looking car!" response. But certainly the performance car that lies underneath makes it more attractive. Interesting info on the turbo and transmission...

I would trade but I think I have more fiscal sense than that. If you keep a car till the wheels falls off, trade in value doesn't mean very much. At least that's what I tell myself.
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Old 08-06-2008, 11:19 PM   #33
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There's no way that the 08 and the 09 will be the same price. With all of those upgrades it's going to be more expensive.

I wonder what the new STi will go for.
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Old 08-06-2008, 11:21 PM   #34
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I guess I'm still against the looks of it. Still looks like a sporty Camry.
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Old 08-06-2008, 11:24 PM   #35
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Meh, I'm glad they're upgrading. But still, it looks like a damn Mazda. SAME exact headlights and body lines, I'm sick of it.
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Old 08-06-2008, 11:45 PM   #36
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that video sucked
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Old 08-07-2008, 12:32 AM   #37
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I guess I'm still against the looks of it. Still looks like a sporty Camry.
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Meh, I'm glad they're upgrading. But still, it looks like a damn Mazda. SAME exact headlights and body lines, I'm sick of it.
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that video sucked
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Old 08-07-2008, 12:38 AM   #38
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^^^^ now that's the kind of disapproval I've grown accustomed to...
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Old 08-07-2008, 12:39 AM   #39
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Well I mean thats cool they are making it better for 09... But WTF!!!! I have an 08... stupid man just stupid.
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Old 08-07-2008, 01:08 AM   #40
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Blah zay blah zay blah....Ahh gee guy the main shaft is harder: wow your '08 sucks now! Look at the 2002 3-400 HP guys running stock trannys and beating the dog piss out of them regularly. Subaru builds a solid car. 10% more hardness in the main shaft doesn't make me sleep better at night. I have bigger fish to fry!

Although, given the way markets work... Some of you are right about the '08 getting S*it on in value. Wonder what the price will really be? I'm really glad I leased my '08 during the late spring when car sales blew donkey balls.....they gave me a 59% residual after 42 months....suckas!! The sales guy: "Whatever you want to do to the car is fine, we'll un-install all your parts and give them back to you when you turn it in as long as you have the stockers!"... we'll see how they like that BS...8 hours of labor to take off my bolt-ons and a loose plug to re-program the ECU haha.

Lastly, I got your back Oxcart...Gotta love the differences between the '08 haters of a few months back, and those that are all of a sudden captivated by a few ponies, side skirts, and still less-than-adequate stock suspension (isn't it all inadequate?). Lay off a bit -- annd for god's sake get used to it. THEY DON'T MAKE YOUR OLD WRX ANY MORE! I get many compliments on the new hard lines and more "grown up" style of the 'rex. I could also do without the large chrome strip in the back, but oh well!
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Old 08-07-2008, 01:35 AM   #41
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I get many compliments on the new hard lines and more "grown up" style of the 'rex.

Same here.. I think the lines really well defined in person.. in photos not so much.. but I did notice that the new photos are of with a dark colored, waxed, highly reflective finish to make them standout. And the grille.. well they made the right choice for 09
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Old 08-07-2008, 01:57 AM   #42
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Same here.. I think the lines really well defined in person.. in photos not so much.. but I did notice that the new photos are of with a dark colored, waxed, highly reflective finish to make them standout. And the grille.. well they made the right choice for 09
I still like the sport grill better then the new one on the 09.
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Old 08-07-2008, 02:36 AM   #43
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Wow that pic really makes the sedan look good. I have never been a fan until now. I wonder if it will look that good in person?
For some reason, 08-09s are not very photogenic at all, so yes IT WILL LOOK EVEN BETTER in person.
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Old 08-07-2008, 03:04 AM   #44
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...Gotta love the differences between the '08 haters of a few months back, and those that are all of a sudden captivated by a few ponies, side skirts, and still less-than-adequate stock suspension
Preach it!
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Old 08-07-2008, 04:41 AM   #45
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Where do I start? Hmmm... I love my 08. I'm the first guy in my town to have had one and in doing so, convinced everyone that ever saw it in person that it completely rapes. Thanks to it's lack of acceptance by a massive community of nay-sayers that have never actually driven/seen one, I'm still the only guy in town with one, besides the jerk with the sti. Admittedly, when I got it I knew it had some things that needed revising. So I added the rear trim piece to match body color, ordered the cool grille, spt exhaust, and removed the emblem and did a complete de-badge and now look at it. Looks identical to the one up there. Oh. And I've had a year to enjoy the hell out of it. But in case your wondering, I am kinda bitter. So stop reminding me.
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Old 08-07-2008, 09:28 AM   #46
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Still relaxing to watch a WRX run through a few turns out in the woods...
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Old 08-07-2008, 11:47 AM   #47
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I will say it, the 2008-09 styling is growing on me. This tends to be a constant among Subaru enthusiasts.
When the Bugeye debuted every American magazine I read was praising Subaru for bringing a WRX to our shores, while the same time writing "eeww' and "yuck" about the cars face. I myself thought Subaru was crazy for putting big round eyes on their mean rally machine. In 6 months to a year after the debut peoples tone changed a bit. Now there are people(enthusiasts) who wouldn't drive anything but a Bugeye WRX. The flip flop of hate it, love it always happens. I expect it and sometimes I think Subaru does as well. Subaru knows they will have lovers and haters of new styling changes. They also know that putting a less than inspiring body design into a road/ race setting, or a rally car setting with dust, mud, and rally wheels will get everyone's blood pumping. Lets flashback to 2002 and see if you understand what I mean.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTkktsSpaz0
It is hard not to get excited watching these commercials, they still get my blood pumping...

The same sort of disdain is and was shown for the 06-07 WRX nose. I hated that nose. Guess what I own an 07 WRX Wagon, and with its black paint, stock 17's with red calipers peeking through... It looks like a wolf in sheep's clothing.
Subaru enthusiasts aren't alone, VW(MK4,MK5 designs), BMW(Chris Bangle designs), dare I say Honda(Civic evolution), etc. get the same first reactions from the their admirers.

I can't explain it, but I know it happens, people don't want to conform to things that are not familiar. Give it time, it will all become familiar eventually.
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Old 08-07-2008, 12:01 PM   #48
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Gotta love the differences between the '08 haters of a few months back, and those that are all of a sudden captivated by a few ponies, side skirts, and still less-than-adequate stock suspension (isn't it all inadequate?). Lay off a bit -- annd for god's sake get used to it. THEY DON'T MAKE YOUR OLD WRX ANY MORE! I get many compliments on the new hard lines and more "grown up" style of the 'rex. I could also do without the large chrome strip in the back, but oh well!
I always appreciated what Subaru was doing by making the 08 more grown up, but I was never a huge fan of the 08 WRX's styling, as I found it just a little too tame, especially compared to the STI. They spiced it up a little for 09, so now I like it a little better. And people should be impressed with the changes: better suspension, bigger turbo, better trans, better steering rack. All of those things should make a stock 09 noticeably more fun car to drive than the 08, and that is what really makes it more attractive. If i had the cash, I'd consider trading my 02 in and getting one of these bad boys. the 02 is a little too conspicuous on the streets (IE: cops follow me whether I am speeding or not), so a WRX disguised as a corolla appeals to me.

And Oxcart: It's not really the Malibu Stacey effect, considering they actually are offering a better product. If they ONLY changes the looks (aero bits, grill, and wheels), then yeah, your point would have been valid.
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Old 08-07-2008, 12:56 PM   #49
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how many paint chips did you get?
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Old 08-07-2008, 02:44 PM   #50
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I swear to god this is the twilight zone! Its the EXACT same car as the 08's in terms of appearance... EXACTLY the same. But now all of the sudden all of its detractors are now loving the car. This is what I now term the "Malibu Stacy Effect." Malibu Stacy gets a new hat and the masses go nuts over something that they were previously hating.

Just IMAGINE all the paint chips that car got!!

It just hit me too... That all of the sudden my resale value on my 08 just went up by 15% now that everyone loves the looks of the... >cough< new WRX.

Agreed, but i think everyone has given up caring and now it looks good. For example, Its like not seeing a good looking girl for months..... the next girl you see will be gorgeous by default (or at least drivable, haha)
The car looks the same, and im sticking to the roots... CAR IS STILL UGLY.

It just looks more appealing because that family sedan has shown it has some fire on the gravel roads.

If Subaru wants to keep me as a customer then please return the uniquely attractive, aggressive, and practical car...P.S. majority of America likes sedans, so please no more hatchbacks/ high trunks!...... maybe i'm picky, but the company has down it from 2000 - 2007. Please try again.
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