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Old 05-25-2007, 11:22 PM   #51
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Interesting concept...but if you want a real performance car that uses electricity instead of gasoline, and you want it now, check out the Tesla Roadster built in California.

http://www.teslamotors.com/

0 - 60mph: 4 seconds
Top Speed: 130mph+
Range: 200 miles on a single charge
Time to charge: 3.5 hours (full charge, household A/C)

It's 50 state legal and ready for you to buy now...starting at about $95,000.00

If they were about half that price I'd get one...but $100k is a little out of my price range for a 2 seater...





thats what i was gonna say! but that tesla looks sick. i really like it.
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Old 05-26-2007, 04:37 PM   #52
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oh man... downhill canyon runs would be way too fun.. . . . . ..
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Old 05-28-2007, 04:16 AM   #53
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Awesome! Looks cool too.
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Old 06-03-2007, 09:00 PM   #54
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I'd pull the eletrics out and drop a turbocharged GSXR 1300 motor into it. Then we'd have a party. 275-300 hp 13k rpm
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Old 06-22-2007, 11:51 AM   #55
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45 mile range, not 45 minutes. You can shut the motor off in traffic automatically and have it start the instant you hit the gas like hybrids. Thus extending the runtime.

Too bad this car is so small. I can see it being used in smaller countries but not in the U.S.
you've almost got it right, but not quite... hehe... you're still thinking like a guy that's driving a car with an internal combustion engine (ICE)-- there's nothing to turn off... when there's a traffic jam, or you're at a red light, stop sign, or in the drive-through at McDonald's, the only electricity you'd be using is your radio, or maybe some lights. Unlike ICEs, EVs use virtually no energy when the traffic is moving really slow, which is the exact time that an ICE is least efficient.

Another reason that EVs are so efficient is that they use regenerative braking, which means that whenever you are stopping or slowing down, the drive motor becomes a generator that pumps energy back into the battery-- a process that is about 98***37; efficient. Modern, well-designed EVs only use about 10% to 15% as much energy as a comparable ICE car. Wow.

Oh, and one more thing... you don't hit the GAS... you hit the ACCELERATOR PEDAL... lol...

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Old 06-22-2007, 01:09 PM   #56
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With so much momentum, their Zero EV Elexceed RS, or "EV Car" for short, has been generating a great deal of buzz among Subaru enthusiasts. Street legal in Japan, this beautiful open-top roadster was recently made available to drive at EDO Performance in Huntington Beach, Calif.
We owe Subaru an acknowledgement for doing what GM, Ford, and Chrysler are not doing-- giving us EVs without being forced to.

Most of the comments on this thread have been really positive, just a few have been mildly negative... none of the guys that are making those comments have ever ridden in or driven an EV, and the experience is profound.

Imagine sitting behind the wheel of the car. You turn the key-- but it's not an ignition key, cuz there's no igniiton... it simply allows the computer to boot up... there is no sound. You push your foot down on the accelerator (no, it's no longer a "gas pedal"... hehe...)... you do not hear the engine spool up to give you torque-- there is no engine spooling, no engine roar, no vibration-- but instantaneously, something kicks you in the butt like a MULE. EVs have instantaneous torque, with zero lag time.

You have an open road ahead of you... there is no engine roar, only the sound of rapidly accelerating wind whipping past your ears like a hang-glider in a power dive... you feel it, you see it, and you hear it but barely. For a second it's as if you're going deaf-- like seeing a black-and-white photo of a colorful bird for the first time, there's something missing, but it's cool, and fun-- a new way to experience motion.

You expect to have to shift gears, but no... the car simply continues to accelerate until you're really at a clip. Acceleration, without roar, vibration, or the momentary bump of a shift every few seconds. And the whole time, you're just using tiny amounts of very efficient POWER.

An EV is an exhilarating thing to wrap yourself into.
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Old 06-22-2007, 01:16 PM   #57
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I bet you could put a few cards on the spokes of the wheels to get that engine sound.
Hehe... funny you would say that... the Lightning, a new British EV super-car, which is three times the price of a Tesla, uses something similar. Super-car drivers are so used to all that burbling sound that they actually have a speaker mounted in the front, simulating the sound of an engine, to make those guys feel at home! LOL!!!
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Old 06-22-2007, 01:22 PM   #58
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45 min on a charge, what happens when you get into traffic? Pull over and wait till it clears I guess
It's not like driving a regular car, where heavy traffic drives your mileage down. Cars with internal combustion engines have "cruising speeds" at which they run most efficiently, but that's not how it is with EVs, which run more efficiently the slower you drive them. And because of regenerative braking, where every time you slow or stop the drive motor becomes a generator that puts almost all of that inertia back into the battery, you don't lose efficiency there, either... and don't burn up your brakes.
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Old 06-22-2007, 01:26 PM   #59
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this thing should never be street legal

imaging a big, long nose, rig behind it in stop and go traffic. Truck driver would not see it and for sure forget about it one of these times and just pull in right behind the car that was in front of this thing, thus,... U get the drift
Motorcycles are even more dangerous... they have no body protection. People should be able to drive whatever they want, so long as they've got helmets, seat belts, or other appropriate protection.
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Old 06-22-2007, 01:43 PM   #60
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These sort of vehicles aren't really anything new, though, are they? A buddy of mine, for his senior project ~ 5 years ago, converted his Fiero into a solely electric car and designed/built the motor controller for it. 8-10 yellow-top Optima batteries and 50 miles on a charge. This does, though, look nicer and I'm sure handles like a dream!
If you look, there's tons of co-ops of guys that are not willing to wait until someone else.. .whether it's GM, Ford, Tesla, Phoenix or whoever... to make a car they can buy. There are kits for converting specific models of gas guzzlers to electric drive, and you can also buy the stuff piece-meal and put your own car together like your buddy did.

There are EV forums online where guys share what they've learned, to help other guys build up their machines without making costly mistakes... for instance, I talked with Bill Dube', the guy that built the KillaCycle drag bike, and he told me that if you're gonna build an EV conversion, start out with cheap lead-acid batteries cuz they're more forgiving of mistakes, and if you screw up it doesn't cost you a fortune. After you straighten out any issues with charging, cooling, etc., you can dump lots of cash into A123 nanophosphate batteries, or whatever else comes along that's light and powerful, without worry.

I found a BMW 318i with a blown engine... I'm considering yanking the engine, and building it up as an EV... if I do, I'll do it that way-- with lead acid first, get as much help from the guys that have already done it, and when I feel confident, I'll switch to lighter, more powerful, longer-range, quick-charging (and expensive) nanophosphates.
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Old 06-22-2007, 02:07 PM   #61
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$100k for a daily commuter to work? I'll wait until the price drops. That thing does look sick and i've seen video footage of this. It mooooves like someone above described. Quiet and torquey. Power delivery was like that of a golf cart, expect a lot more power, if that makes sense.
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Old 09-23-2007, 12:23 PM   #62
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This Zerosports EV car is for sale. Limited Edition. Please let us know if you are interested. Zerosports has decided to test out the market. We are providing first year of fre service if you purchase this EV car.

Please call us for details at 714-602-5741

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Old 09-23-2007, 06:07 PM   #63
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$29k seems like a bit much for this car. I was thinking it was around $10k before I saw the real price.

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Old 09-24-2007, 02:38 AM   #64
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car prices got lowered to around $20k
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Old 09-24-2007, 10:43 PM   #65
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I see. Well I do not doubt that the car is a fun little piece to drive, but I simply don't see any great demand emerging for them until they are street legal, faster,has longer range, and cheaper..

But I wish EDO Performance good luck in selling them.
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Old 09-25-2007, 08:59 AM   #66
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Sure its fast, but .... with no sound of exhaust .... whats the fun?

an annoying electric engine tang ... no good
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Old 09-25-2007, 09:10 AM   #67
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Sure its fast, but .... with no sound of exhaust .... whats the fun?

an annoying electric engine tang ... no good
I'm sure you can get a nice loudspeaker setup comin out underneath the rear bumper or some crap
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Old 09-25-2007, 09:33 AM   #68
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I dream of one day having an electric car that gives me speed and power but some alright mileage (at least 150 mi. per charge?), and a decent recharge time (3.5 hours seems alright), at a fair market price (Not the $100k for the tesla, as awesome as it is.)

I mean, this car seems GREAT, and I love the go-kart appeal to it, but $29k for something that tops out at 40mph and can only get you 45 miles? I'm ok with the 40mph, but for that it needs to be able to give me at least 100 miles to the charge, especially with an 8 hour charge. I also assume that if you have the radio on (if it has one), the run distance is cut down as well?

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thanks guys for the support!! wish me luck!
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Old 12-04-2007, 06:05 PM   #70
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"4-wheel disc brakes with cross-drilled rotors, independent double-wishbone suspension"

Seems like overkill for something that goes 40mph

Its excellent for those 13 mile trips (40mph * 0.33hr (20 minutes...you need the other 20 minutes to get back home)) you want to make by yourself. And you cant pick anything up IE grocery store since the trunk is probably full of 900 lbs of batteries....

Might as well by a bicycle for $100 and have $24,899 to spend on beer and hookers

And if you actually parked it somewhere you'd have to hope a couple guys wouldnt pick it up and throw it in the back of their truck and take off with it.

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