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01-24-2020, 02:07 PM | #1 | ||
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XS-A (read: heavier SM/XP on 200TW)
Also, CAM for all
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01-24-2020, 02:23 PM | #2 |
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This is the perfect class for my car. I never really did much autocross with it because it was too modified to be anywhere close to in the same league as most of the cars it would end up against.
At least now when i get smoked I'll have no excuses. |
01-24-2020, 02:45 PM | #3 |
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This class is no different because all the cars you were up against before would also be legal for XSA
I will say, as long as it doesn't get a jacket or contingency that will keep some people away, but as soon as it get's contingency all the casual people who didn't show up because they were getting stomped will start getting stomped again. |
01-24-2020, 02:45 PM | #4 |
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Interesting. This could bode well for some Global Time Attack Street Class cars to fit in an AutoX class without massive changes.
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01-24-2020, 03:01 PM | #5 | |
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Really I just want to have fun without being in a class where the cars are completely stripped down cars on slicks and this should allow that if nothing else. I have no aspirations of being truly competitive. I built the car for me, not to a class rulebook so... yeah |
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01-24-2020, 03:43 PM | #6 |
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Yeah, this aligns with my goals for the car a little better than the SM ruleset did, and I'm still playing with street tires, so I don't have to go to hoosier level going this route.
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01-25-2020, 09:16 AM | #7 |
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Yeah my local scca guy sent me this the moment he knew about it, he knows my car pretty well and was really happy there is a class that makes sense finally seeing I wasnt willing to fully gut my DD.
This should be interesting, my car is down at 2800lbs wet so it looks like 200lbs are getting added to the rear half of the car for these. Lol. Always had my best times with a full rear seat. |
01-25-2020, 11:57 PM | #8 |
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it almost as if it lets w2w cars have a class it will be a lot of money. I just finished up annual tech today, and texas region was talking about it.
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01-30-2020, 12:35 PM | #9 |
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Contemplating doing an XS-B for my new project car. Question about the interior rules:
The rules state the interior must be upholster, but the back seats can be removed. Does this mean something like the 6oc rear seat delete kit would need to be coated with cloth or would it be fine as bare plastic? |
01-30-2020, 12:40 PM | #10 |
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interior behind the front seats appears to be stripable. It says you can remove door panels and such so I'd guess bare plastic is ok. Worst case just get some lycra and put it down.
SM cars are legal there and they don't have rear seats. |
01-30-2020, 01:18 PM | #11 | |
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Sounds like as long as you make an effort to clean up/paint the area you expose its all good. But 3000lbs w/o driver might as well keep the rear half intact. |
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01-30-2020, 01:19 PM | #12 |
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01-30-2020, 06:20 PM | #13 |
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Another dumb question. What about the lining in the trunk? As in everything cloth or plastic in there. Can that go or must it stay?
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01-30-2020, 08:53 PM | #14 | |
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If you're retaining FWD I think that'll be possible as I know of a few AWD XP cars that are around that, although I do think you'll need a good bit of composites on the front end to achieve that. Not saying it can't be done, but you won't have anything resembling an interior to get there.
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For reference, without ballast rules I figure I could hit high 2,5xx's in SM with a 2000 RS in SM legal trim. That's fuel cell, absolutely the lightest seats, custom intake manifold, everything trimmed to the last bit. If you gutted the doors, gutted the interior, 2lbs carbon hood/bumper/everything up front, light weight wheels (talking 10 lbs in 15 or 16"), bumper beams, EPS, and a whole bunch of other stuff, then added enough covering in the interior to look finished I would wager you could do it. Would be a LOT of effort though and still be going against miata/lotus setups that have considerably better suspensions and driving the right wheels. Not naysaying, just giving real world experience |
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01-30-2020, 10:28 PM | #15 |
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Not looking to win nationals or anything (XS isn't even a national level class yet), just bought something cheap and fun to drive. XS class fits more into what I want and can do with the car as opposed to the limitations in STH and the insane expensive tires in SM. I've always wanted to full-prep a car, but I can't tow it so its got to be streetable at the same time.
My main concern with the trunk bits is just looking at the trunk area most of the bits are in terrible shape and I just want to yank them out for now. Better option than spending money on new bits. |
01-31-2020, 12:02 PM | #16 |
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"Must be licensed and insured",
This is something that is a pet peeve of mine. In CA it is very difficult to do a legal engine swap. Basically no "Good" EJ engine mods are technically street legal. If you have cams, your car isn't legally registered. I'm just waiting for some kill joy to protest that the racecar isn't legally licensed. |
01-31-2020, 12:26 PM | #17 | |
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Or move to a state that's not CA so you don't have to pass silly laws while the hotrod next to you is running a carb and no cats. |
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01-31-2020, 01:36 PM | #18 | |
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You can easily do a 400whp build that will pass smog, more if you plan on swapping the cat when its time for the 2 year smog test. The one thing I find most annoying is that you can't pass a smog inspection with an AOS |
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01-31-2020, 02:34 PM | #19 |
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Removing catalytic converters is a federal offense. The difference is in states that don't check you can be licensed/registered. In states that do enforce it you have a harder time.
It's a dumb rule, but mirrors CAM for wording. |
01-31-2020, 06:03 PM | #20 | |
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For me to get my highly modified car licensed and registered I can just give them my home address and they don't ever look at my car because of my county laws not requiring it. Rural living FTW. |
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01-31-2020, 10:19 PM | #21 |
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07-04-2020, 08:31 PM | #22 |
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I think ill be moving to this class from sm since I run 255 anyway. I will be doing a engine build next year and was wondering if in this class we can remove the bumper be a for a front mount intercooler?
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07-04-2020, 09:24 PM | #23 |
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You can remove bumper beams in XS.
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07-06-2020, 02:26 PM | #24 |
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Thank you, this will make class change much easier. It is possible I'm over thinking it because Ill likely only build and tune for 375-400 whp. I have a lot of seat time to take advantage of before I make any kind of crazy power
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07-13-2020, 08:22 AM | #25 |
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This is a common class. Nothing special about that class
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