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Old 07-11-2022, 02:40 AM   #126
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Feel bad for Sainz after coming off his first win. Great to see Schumacher improving. What's going on with AT and Alfa though? Expected them to be doing better than they are at this point in the season. MB doing much better as best of the rest after RB and Ferrari.
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Old 07-12-2022, 06:36 PM   #127
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I too feel bad for Sainz and that Ferrari PU reliability just letting them down. I mean it works out well for me but it would have been nicer if George didn't punt Checo...as risky as it was.
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Old 07-23-2022, 01:35 PM   #128
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Times from today's qualifying session for the Lenovo Grand Prix de France.

Pos Driver Team Time Gap
1 Leclerc Ferrari 1:30.872 143.811 mph
2 Verstappen Red Bull 1:31.176 0.304
3 Perez Red Bull 1:31.335 0.463
4 Hamilton Mercedes 1:31.765 0.893
5 Norris McLaren 1:32.032 1.160
6 Russell Mercedes 1:32.131 1.259
7 Alonso Alpine 1:32.552 1.680
8 Tsunoda AlphaTauri 1:32.780 1.908

10 Magnussen Haas No Time
11 Ricciardo McLaren 1:32.922
12 Ocon Alpine 1:33.048
13 Bottas Alfa Romeo 1:33.052
14 Vettel Aston Martin 1:33.276
15 Albon Williams 1:33.307
16 Gasly AlphaTauri 1:33.439
17 Stroll Aston Martin 1:33.439
18 Zhou Alfa Romeo 1:33.674
19 Schumacher Haas 1:33.701
20 Latifi Williams 1:33.794
9 Sainz Ferrari No Time


Leclerc gets pole via Sainz who starts from the back.
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Old 07-24-2022, 03:51 AM   #129
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Sneaky slipstream/tow by ferrari to get P1 in Q3.
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Old 07-24-2022, 01:28 PM   #130
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Result of the Lenovo Grand Prix de France.


Pos Driver Team Laps Gap
1 Verstappen Red Bull 53 1h 30:02.112
2 Hamilton Mercedes 53 + 0:10.587
3 Russell Mercedes 53 + 0:16.495
4 Perez Red Bull 53 + 0:17.310
5 Sainz Ferrari 53 + 0:28.872
6 Alonso Alpine 53 + 0:72.879
7 Norris McLaren 53 + 0:52.026
8 Ocon Alpine 53 + 0:56.959
9 Ricciardo McLaren 53 + 1:00.372
10 Stroll Aston Martin 53 + 1:02.549
11 Vettel Aston Martin 53 + 1:04.494
12 Gasly AlphaTauri 53 + 1:05.448
13 Albon Williams 53 + 1:08.565
14 Bottas Alfa Romeo 53 + 1:16.666
15 Schumacher Haas 53 + 1:20.394
16 Zhou Alfa Romeo 47 + 6 Laps
Latifi Williams 40 Accident Damage
Magnussen Haas 37 Accident Damage
Leclerc Ferrari 17 Accident
Tsunoda AlphaTauri 17 Accident Damage

Ferrari blows it again! Leclerc spins out while leading.
Questionable pit stop call for Sainz.
AM gets some points.
Bad showing by Haas, AR.
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Old 07-24-2022, 06:24 PM   #131
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was it a driver error, or was it a stuck throttle, we will never know

https://www.skysports.com/watch/vide...crash-analysed
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Old 07-24-2022, 08:16 PM   #132
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Perez claims that he had the wrong VSC message.

https://www.pitpass.com/73199/Perez-...fety-car-error
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Old 07-24-2022, 08:17 PM   #133
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Perez claims that he had the wrong VSC message.

https://www.pitpass.com/73199/Perez-...fety-car-error
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Old 07-24-2022, 10:55 PM   #134
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I'm still undecided on the 2nd pit stop for Sainz. I mean it would have been heroic for him to not pit, put a gap of greater than 5 seconds on Perez and Russell, and maintain that >5 gap on his old medium tires to come home 3rd even after penalty applied. However, since he pitted fairly early in the race, all I could conjure up during this point in the race were memories of what happened to Raikkonen at one grand prix in 2012 where he was in 2nd on really old tires in the closing stages of the race. And in the span of like 2 laps he went backward from 2nd to somewhere well outside of the points. That would have been a hero to zero moment for Sainz if he sat 3rd and then last few laps wound up behind Stroll and Vettel...
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You may be too young to have watched Nigel Mansell blow his left rear tire while leading a race back in 1986, if I recall the year correctly.

https://www.google.com/search?q=nige...hrome&ie=UTF-8
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Old 07-25-2022, 02:17 PM   #136
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You may be too young to have watched Nigel Mansell blow his left rear tire in the final race back in 1986, losing the world championship. If I recall the year correctly.

https://www.google.com/search?q=nige...hrome&ie=UTF-8

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Old 07-25-2022, 10:23 PM   #137
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You may be too young to have watched Nigel Mansell blow his left rear tire in the final race back in 1986, losing the world championship. If I recall the year correctly.

https://www.google.com/search?q=nige...hrome&ie=UTF-8
Can confirm I was too young. In diapers not watching F1 yet in '86.

I don't remember seeing the clip of Il Leone's tire going like that before, but oh man, Murray Walker's commentary does not disappoint! Was just listening to a podcast a few days ago that was all about Canada 1989 when Mansell's engine cut out on the last lap as he was waving to fans, opposite end of the track from the start/finish line. That man had a great mustache but not great luck.
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The tyres don't fall off the cliff like in 2012.
The cliff will be a blow out instead.
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The tyres don't fall off the cliff like in 2012.
The cliff will be a blow out instead.
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Can confirm I was too young. In diapers not watching F1 yet in '86.

I don't remember seeing the clip of Il Leone's tire going like that before, but oh man, Murray Walker's commentary does not disappoint! Was just listening to a podcast a few days ago that was all about Canada 1989 when Mansell's engine cut out on the last lap as he was waving to fans, opposite end of the track from the start/finish line. That man had a great mustache but not great luck.

I was at that race in Montreal sitting on the stands on the exit of the hairpin. We sat there pretty much for 14 years. I also have a signed picture of Nigel from a bat turn he did during a practice run at that hairpin.
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Vettel announces retirement from F1 after 2022 season

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/v...ason/10344454/

The four-time F1 world champion revealed via his newly-launched Instagram account on Thursday ahead of this weekend's Hungarian Grand Prix that he would be walking away for the series at the end of the season.

Vettel made his F1 debut in 2007 and enjoyed the peak of his success with Red Bull, winning the world championship each year between 2010 and 2013. He joined Ferrari in 2015 before switching to Aston Martin for 2021.

The news is a major twist in the F1 driver market for next year, freeing up a seat with Aston Martin alongside Lance Stroll for next year.

"The decision to retire has been a difficult one for me to take, and I have spent a lot of time thinking about it," Vettel said in a statement released by Aston Martin.

"At the end of the year I want to take some more time to reflect on what I will focus on next; it is very clear to me that, being a father, I want to spend more time with my family.

"But today is not about saying goodbye. Rather, it is about saying thank you - to everyone - not least to the fans, without whose passionate support Formula 1 could not exist."

Vettel made his F1 debut at the 2007 United States Grand Prix in a one-off appearance for BMW before getting an mid-season promotion with Toro Rosso later in the year.

He became F1's youngest-ever winner in 2008 with Toro Rosso before joining Red Bull for the following season, with whom he enjoyed the peak of his success winning the world championship each year between 2010 and 2013.



Vettel joined Ferrari in 2015 and fought for the world title in 2017 and 2018, losing out to Mercedes rival Lewis Hamilton on both occasions. He left Maranello at the end of 2020 to join Aston Martin, with whom he will see out his F1 career.


"I want to thank Sebastian from the bottom of my heart for the great work that he has done for Aston Martin over the past year and a half," said Aston Martin executive chairman and team owner Lawrence Stroll.

"We made it clear to him that we wanted him to continue with us next year, but in the end he has done what he feels is right for himself and his family, and of course we respect that. He has driven some fantastic races for us, and, behind the scenes, his experience and expertise with our engineers have been extremely valuable.

"He is one of the all-time greats of Formula One, and it has been a privilege to have been able to work with him. He will continue to race for us up to and including the 2022 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix, which will be his 300th grand prix entry. We will give him a fabulous send-off."
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Danke Seb!
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Old 07-30-2022, 01:18 PM   #143
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well well well, that is an interesting starting grid, with a great chance of crashes in the first lap.
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Times from today's qualifying session for the Aramco Magyar Nagydij.
Pos Driver Team Time Gap
1 Russell Mercedes 1:17.377 126.656 mph
2 Sainz Ferrari 1:17.421 0.044
3 Leclerc Ferrari 1:17.567 0.190
4 Norris McLaren 1:17.769 0.392
5 Ocon Alpine 1:18.018 0.641
6 Alonso Alpine 1:18.078 0.701
7 Hamilton Mercedes 1:18.142 0.765
8 Bottas Alfa Romeo 1:18.157 0.780
9 Ricciardo McLaren 1:18.379 1.002
10 Verstappen Red Bull 1:18.823 1.446
11 Perez Red Bull 1:18.516
12 Zhou Alfa Romeo 1:18.573
13 Magnussen Haas 1:18.825
14 Stroll Aston Martin 1:19.137
15 Schumacher Haas 1:19.202
16 Tsunoda AlphaTauri 1:19.240
17 Albon Williams 1:19.256
18 Vettel Aston Martin 1:19.273
19 Gasly AlphaTauri 1:19.527
20 Latifi Williams 1:19.570

Yep 1st corner could be a cluster fk.
If not its going to be a long day for RedBull . Doubt either driver will get a podium since this track is very hard to overtake. ( one of the worse)
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Congrats Max! and Mercs! Ferrari again fumbled the tire management!
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Result of the Aramco Magyar Nagydij.

Pos Driver Team Laps Gap
1 Verstappen Red Bull 70 1h 39:35.912
2 Hamilton Mercedes 70 + 0:07.834
3 Russell Mercedes 70 + 0:12.337
4 Sainz Ferrari 70 + 0:14.579
5 Perez Red Bull 70 + 0:15.688
6 Leclerc Ferrari 70 + 0:16.047
7 Norris McLaren 70 + 1:18.300
8 Alonso Alpine 69 + 1 Lap
9 Ocon Alpine 69 + 1 Lap
10 Vettel Aston Martin 69 + 1 Lap
11 Stroll Aston Martin 69 + 1 Lap
12 Gasly AlphaTauri 69 + 1 Lap
13 Zhou Alfa Romeo 69 + 1 Lap
14 Schumacher Haas 69 + 1 Lap
15 Ricciardo McLaren 69 + 1 Lap
16 Magnussen Haas 69 + 1 Lap
17 Albon Williams 69 + 1 Lap
18 Latifi Williams 69 + 1 Lap
19 Tsunoda AlphaTauri 68 + 2 Laps
20 Bottas Alfa Romeo 65 + 5 Laps

With Ferrari starting 2,3 & RedBull down the grid, its easy pickings for Ferrari for a 1-2.
NOT!
They botched it again. and gets shut out of at least a podium.
Again, poor race strategy, botched pitstops.
Binotto was seen leaving the garage with 10 laps to go.
Good run by Max coming that far back on this track.
Only Button did better in 2006 but that was a wet race that dried out near the end.
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I wonder if we will see some personal changes on Ferrari's pit wall... ?
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Toto Wolf claims that Ferrari used up most of the medium tires in practice and didn't have enough for the race.
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Fernando Alonso switches to Aston Martin F1 team from 2023

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f...2023/10347079/

The two-time F1 world champion will leave Alpine at the end of the season to join Aston Martin, acting as the latest bombshell in the F1 driver market.

Alonso will replace the retiring Sebastian Vettel, and opens up a seat with Alpine that looks set to be taken by Oscar Piastri.

Alonso said on Sunday after the Hungarian Grand Prix that he was confident his future would be sewn up by the time F1 returned from its summer break at the end of August.

But a rapid conclusion to talks with Aston Martin now means he will jump ship and link up with the British team owned by Lawrence Stroll for 2023 and beyond.

“This Aston Martin team is clearly applying the energy and commitment to win, and it is therefore one of the most exciting teams in Formula One today,” said Alonso in a statement.

“I have known Lawrence and Lance for many years and it is very obvious that they have the ambition and passion to succeed in Formula One. I have watched as the team has systematically attracted great people with winning pedigrees, and I have become aware of the huge commitment to new facilities and resources at Silverstone.

“No one in Formula One today is demonstrating a greater vision and absolute commitment to winning, and that makes it a really exciting opportunity for me. I still have the hunger and ambition to fight to be at the front, and I want to be part of an organisation that is committed to learn, develop and succeed.”

The news also comes less than 24 hours after Alpine F1 boss Otmar Szafnauer expressed confidence that Alonso would stay with the team for 2023 and beyond, predicting talks would be “very straightforward.”

Alpine has been trying for some time to find a seat for reserve driver Piastri, and looked set to loan him out to Williams for next year.

But Alonso’s exit now means Piastri looks poised to step up and join Esteban Ocon at the team from 2023.

Alonso will link back up with Martin Whitmarsh at Aston Martin, who he worked with at McLaren back in 2007. At 41, it looks set to be one of Alonso’s final F1 moves, but the multi-year deal acts as a sign of his commitment to keep racing.


Stroll acquired the Aston Martin team back in 2019 when it was known as Racing Point before rebranding it under the name of the British manufacturer for 2021.

A significant investment drive is underway in the facilities at Silverstone, setting out a five year plan to be fighting for world championships.

The team currently sits ninth in the championship, but Alonso felt confident it was the right place to be if he wants to win again in F1.

“The passion and desire to perform that I have witnessed convince me to maintain my enjoyment and commitment to the sport,” said Alonso.

“I intend to win again in this sport and therefore I have to take the opportunities that feel right to me.”
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