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12-28-2009, 07:45 PM | #76 | |
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Last time I bought a boat, I paddled over 12 different boats, over a period of a few months, even to the point where I was paddling carbon vs carbon/glass versions of the same boat to see if I was faster with the lighter and stiffer boat or not. (I ended up with full Carbon)
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12-28-2009, 07:49 PM | #77 |
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Kayak+ Baja= Awesomeness..
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12-29-2009, 01:28 AM | #78 |
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Meh... I thought I knew what I wanted but everyone here tells me I want something different. Every local who paddles tells me I need what I want. That being said I guess I will wait until July to start spending a few hundred renting boats, and by end of august or so I might have a decision. At that point I can make a purchase, and maybe by November I'll have a kayak, and come July 2011 I'll be able to really start getting out there!
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12-29-2009, 02:29 AM | #79 | |
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The limitations of the SOT kayak will get old pretty quickly, otherwise. I never had any kayak experience - but I took a basic kayak class and wen to an REI kayak demo day. I bought a 14 1/2 foot Delta kayak with a 24 inch beam (24 inches across). Let me tell you - it was really fun and really stable, but it took almost no time at all before I wished I had a 22 inch beam or narrower for speed. There's no reason to get a too-narrow kayak right away, but just remember - if you're very comfortable (tippy wise) at the onset, then you'll possibly wish for something more streamlined in the near future. Another positive aspect of renting is that you'll get a little more confident in being in a kayak, and you won't be as likely to buy a "barge" (wide kayak) at the onset. Regardless of what you buy, you'll have fun. But before anyone on this thread, or in the stores tell you what you should get, make sure they're asking YOU what you want to do with it. And remember some of your budget should go towards a really good paddle, if possible. |
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12-29-2009, 07:47 PM | #80 |
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My family has two kayaks (his & hers), I have a SOT and my wife has the sit in; both are tandem kayaks because we take our 2 kids with us on adventures. Each has pros/cons, but if you aren't going to paddle out in the Atlantic, I'd go with the sit in. Each summer, we take our kayaks to the beach and launch at my dad's house (canal in North OC) and Assateague. Assateague is great because I get to take my kayak out in the ocean.
Anyway, when I come down this summer, I'll give you a shout and take you out on both (if you haven't decided by then). Also, BJs sells some bottom tier kayaks (Pelican) dirt cheap and there is a BJs in Millsboro, just about 40 minutes outside of Fenwick. Michael |
12-29-2009, 07:52 PM | #81 |
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that's it. get a nice 14 foot, 22 wide and like it! with all the strappies and a couple little storage things.
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12-29-2009, 08:16 PM | #82 | |
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Yup. Or almost any big-box sporting goods store. We picked up some Pelican kayaks from the local boatyard a few seasons ago for simple lake use with the kids. I love the fact that the boats are inexpensive, stable, and nearly indestructible. If someone rams them into the dock, rides up on rocks, drags them around, or otherwise abuses 'em, it doesn't hurt them at all. And if you decide you really like having a kayak, you can sell it off in a couple years and buy something higher-end. |
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12-29-2009, 09:13 PM | #83 | |
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And OP - the kayak demo days aren't for placing orders, but are just for trying things out. I haven't been to a demo day yet where there was any expectation to buy something, and a lot of times, they're not even taking orders there (like with REI's demo days). |
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01-13-2010, 12:57 PM | #84 |
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01-13-2010, 01:33 PM | #85 |
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Regarding tandems needing two people and sinking without bulkheads...
Not true for all. Old Town makes a tandem model called the "Loon 160" - It has moveable seats so it can be paddled as a single. - It is similar to a Boston Whaler = Buoyant material sandwiched between rugged plastic = chop into pieces and all pieces float. - Stable as hell - Faster than it looks - Can be skirted - Optional rudder - In your price range http://www.oldtowncanoe.com/kayaks/t...loon_160t.html http://www.oldtowncanoe.com/canoes/a...polylink3.html I bought two of these boats I like them so much. One is for the wife and I, the other is for guests who are almost always beginners. Everyone who has paddled it has loved it. I use it for coastal Atlantic Ocean day touring. Just wanted to let you know this option is available. Last edited by boxxxer; 01-13-2010 at 01:57 PM. |
01-13-2010, 08:36 PM | #86 | |
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4x4GGG is going to buy a sit-on-top, going against all the advice in here. Then he is going to either 1) think it is kinda fun and use it once in a while, 2)decide it sucks and never use it, or 3)realize his mistake and sell it for a longer, more efficient sit-in kayak that he will think is a lot more fun and useful. I hope 3 is what happens, but I think 1 or 2 is more likely. Edit: Holly crap, that thing is 30" wide! |
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01-13-2010, 09:26 PM | #87 |
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I don't remember if I posted in here already.
My current yak; Obviously set up for fishing.. My next kayak come spring;(for touring... since my tarpon is like an obese man in water) Alchemy 14.0S Features * 10" dual desnsity bow hatch; 8" midship hatch; oval stern hatch * Adjustable fabric covered thighbraces * Comfort Fit Seating system * Soft touch handles * Height adjustable drop skeg * Bow, midship, stern bulkhead * Slidelock footbrace system * Bow and stern deck rigging Specifications Length: 14' / 427 cm Width: 23" / 58 cm Max Capacity: 275 lbs. / 125 kg Deck Height: 13" / 33 cm Weight: 51 lbs. / 23 kg Cockpit Length: 35" / 89 cm Cockpit Width: 18.5" / 47 cm Anyone in NJ should attend; The East Coast's Largest Kayak, Canoe, and Outdoor Show! presented by The Jersey Paddler March 26 - March 28 2010 Friday, March 26th Noon-9 pm Saturday, March 27th 9 am-6 pm Sunday, March 28th 10 am-4:30 pm Garden State Exhibit Center, Somerset, New Jersey Admission is only $10 and FREE for children under 14 http://www.jerseypaddler.com/paddle-...eral-info.html Last edited by kevin85193; 01-13-2010 at 09:32 PM. |
01-13-2010, 09:32 PM | #88 | |
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Mom is talking about getting Rick a SOT, and then another for me later towards the spring when I have settled on a kayak.
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I like the set up on that SOT, nice! Thanks for the info on the event, looks like a worthwild event to attend. That Alchemy 14.0S looks like a nice comparison to the perception, wonder what the price difference is. |
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01-13-2010, 09:39 PM | #89 | |
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http://www.dagger.com/product/index/.../alchemy_14_s/ Some places let you test them out for free. That's what I did with the Dagger. Jersey Paddler (http://www.jerseypaddler.com/) has a lake 1min down the street and they load up a bunch of kayaks to test. |
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01-14-2010, 09:43 AM | #90 | |
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Or we can set it up that my brother gets a SINK, I get an SOT, and we paddle them for the summer. If I don't like mine, or if he doesn't like his we could use eachothers 90% since we work different hours. If it turns out that the people who do white water kayaking on the west coast are right and all the people who live here in my town who paddle where I'm going to paddle are wrong and a SINK is what I want, I can sell it over the winter and get something different. |
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01-14-2010, 09:49 AM | #91 |
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Missed this thread while I was out. Wife and I are fairly avid kayakers, we have two sea kayaks, I have a Perception Carolina, and my wife has a Walden Somethingoranother. Sometimes we take the pooch along, but he doesn't like it much.
I definitely like a sit-in boat moreso than a sit-on-top, but it depends what you're doing. If I were playing in the waves I'd want a SOT. Otherwise I like sitting in the boat. I feel much more stable, plus having sun protection on my legs is a huge bonus. Much easier to keep from getting burned. Wife and I made a trip to CA recently and did a bit of sea kayaking while we were out there: It was amazing to have that much wildlife around. Very different than kayaking in the east. Kayak sailing was a blast, too! |
01-14-2010, 10:13 AM | #92 | |
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With a Malibu 2, SOT, my buddy and I who are both in good shape are able to maintain MAYBE 2MPH going against the current. It gets very frustrating. If you and your roomate get different kinds of boats, you will not be able to go paddling together. You'll be sweating up a storm as he glides along. Get a SOT if you want to take it to the beach and play in the surf and maybe occasionally paddle out and fish. It's nice have a SOT at the beach with a crowd, everyone can use it, flipping is no big deal, can't sink, etc. However if you actually want to go out, it's going to be terribly frustrating and lord help you if you get caught paddling against the current. |
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01-14-2010, 10:18 AM | #93 |
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Anyone in NJ should attend;
The East Coast's Largest Kayak, Canoe, and Outdoor Show! presented by The Jersey Paddler March 26 - March 28 2010 Friday, March 26th Noon-9 pm Saturday, March 27th 9 am-6 pm Sunday, March 28th 10 am-4:30 pm Garden State Exhibit Center, Somerset, New Jersey Admission is only $10 and FREE for children under 14 http://www.jerseypaddler.com/paddle-...eral-info.html[/quote] hell ya I drove from CT to get my boat there... |
01-15-2010, 05:48 PM | #94 | ||
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01-15-2010, 06:27 PM | #95 | |
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Well, it probably won't take that long to decide, especially between SOT and SIN. They are like comparing apples and oranges almost. You'll know either way after a few paddles. Plus, if you are honestly shopping, any credible dealer is going to let you test paddle for free. You won't need to spend hundreds. Btw, I don't whitewater except for a couple larger river runs between lakes. I do a lot of the same toodling about that you plan to do. East Coast/West Coast doesn't really matter when you are talking basic paddling. By the way, the most frustrating thing I found when shopping for a boat was reading "boat reviews" EVERYONE is happy with their boat so it isn't really useful for comparing similar designs |
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02-09-2010, 07:31 PM | #96 |
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new kayak is arriving next week!
except in a darker blue |
08-09-2010, 11:25 AM | #97 |
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OK, so what the heck would someone get who wants to be able to paddle for several miles, and also wants to be able to fish in 2-3ft choppy water?
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08-09-2010, 11:50 AM | #98 |
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08-09-2010, 11:56 AM | #99 |
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08-09-2010, 12:09 PM | #100 |
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Is there anything available that will be stable just bobbing in 2-3 ft waves ie with no paddle input? For exmple, I have a surf kayak (SOT) that is pretty stable in waves, but I still have to paddle it.
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