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09-25-2020, 10:37 AM | #14026 |
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09-25-2020, 10:43 AM | #14027 |
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09-25-2020, 11:06 AM | #14028 |
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09-25-2020, 11:23 AM | #14029 |
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Easy to do when you can seek out any obscure "source" that aligns with your pre-established viewpoint these days. Just go to www.imright.com and what do you know, the MSM has been lying to us all along! These bloggers know THE TRUTH!!!
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09-25-2020, 11:26 AM | #14030 | |
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09-25-2020, 11:30 AM | #14031 |
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Yup; and you counter perhaps the most experienced infectious disease microbiologist(s) in the country with an assistant professor from McGill and radiologist(!!) from Standford, and now "There's even disagreement among the experts!"
I mean sure, it's technically true, just also incredibly misleading, since some people's experts actually aren't, or are WAY out of their depth of field. |
09-25-2020, 12:06 PM | #14032 | |
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09-25-2020, 12:27 PM | #14033 |
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You know, even at 99.99% rates of COVID being survivable (let us simply ignore any other health impact and just say death is what we care about) you still have the problem that .01% multiplied by 340,000,000 ends up being a bigger number than people can really comprehend. I think that is part of what is wrong with the total being over 200,000 is that humans can't really grasp what that means. They can kinda get it if you say "ok, see this big stadium, it holds 50,000 people. Therefore it would be 4 of this stadium died." We just don't typically deal with large quantities like that and especially when you localize it as "well my state only lost X amount."
People want to compare it to other stuff like "well cars kill X. or choking kills Y." I think people want to minimize the threat because we have no cure and don't fully understand COVID so people will say it isn't so scary because they don't like having something so powerful they have no control over. Much like how voters last election picked the guy blatantly lying to them over the person telling them the truth, they don't like the truth and would rather hope that the slimmest of chances really exists that things will go well. |
09-25-2020, 01:01 PM | #14034 | |
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09-25-2020, 01:02 PM | #14035 |
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Anyone who utters "herd immunity" has absolutely no concept of reality. That would kill millions. Maybe they just don't care. Or think they're not old/sick, they'll roll those dice no matter what the consequences for others. So yeah, they just don't care. Until it's too late.
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09-25-2020, 01:12 PM | #14036 | |
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In the same vein, 200k sounds horrifying, until you give it perspective: medical malpractice kills far more than covid; so does heart disease, cancer, etc. It's not minimizing the threat, anymore than it is to understand that despite 40k people being killed in car crashes, or double that in some years by the flu, you're probably going to be just fine driving to work, or going to the concert in November. |
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09-25-2020, 01:43 PM | #14037 | |
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09-25-2020, 01:59 PM | #14038 |
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Well, we certainly aren't gonna give up fast food and become a country of non-fat lazy sacks of ... well... fat.
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09-25-2020, 02:04 PM | #14039 |
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09-25-2020, 02:12 PM | #14040 |
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The only "casualty events" this nation has experienced that have killed more Americans than COVID now (200k) are:
WW2 (400k), The Civil War (600k), and 1918 Flu (700k). |
09-25-2020, 02:13 PM | #14041 |
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Well, yeah. That's why 9/11 is a good comparison to combat that thinking. #neverforget 3,000 but 200,000 is hand waved away.
And after all, more people die in pool drownings each year than in decades of terrorist attacks, so who gives a ****, right? Wearing a mask is an assault on their freedom but going through airport security body scanners is fine. |
09-25-2020, 02:24 PM | #14042 | |
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09-25-2020, 02:28 PM | #14043 | |
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And latest for the, "Who could have possibly known???" files:
Parents Knowingly Sent Kids With Coronavirus to School, Wisconsin Officials Say Quote:
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09-25-2020, 02:41 PM | #14044 | |
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09-25-2020, 02:52 PM | #14045 |
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09-25-2020, 02:54 PM | #14046 |
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Casualty events? Why are you comparing wars to a virus? There are several causes which kill more people yearly, every year, are you trying to hand wave those away?
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09-25-2020, 02:55 PM | #14047 |
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My county.
There was one on opening day, who they found because the kid had to go to the nurse shortly after school started because they were too sick to stay in class. Then the story earlier this week, they said that hadn't been the only one, and they were looking at how to tie the positive tests into the attendance software so they can catch them first thing. |
09-25-2020, 03:05 PM | #14048 | |
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That would put it just a rung or two down from cancer and heart disease. The difference of course is that covid is contagious and we had a chance to stifle it and failed because too many people like you have their head in the sand. And before you say I'm politicizing it, I hate the left just as much as I hate the right. Both sides can huff a dong and I hope everyone at Fox news and CNN experiences the worst of uneven tire tread wear. |
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09-25-2020, 03:22 PM | #14049 |
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Excess mortality. It's called that because it's in...wait for it...excess of baseline mortality from inevitable things like cancer and heart disease. So many new and exciting concepts that some people in OT should learn about!
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09-25-2020, 03:26 PM | #14050 | |
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