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09-24-2008, 12:12 PM | #51 |
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if you want noise, buy an intake way less harmful for your car
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09-24-2008, 02:16 PM | #54 |
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About the APS bov...
My 02 REX once had the old APS Club-Spec kit, but after a few years I've returned the car to stock, except that I still have that old APS bov (and the hoses). I've dicked around with it over the years, always marking my start point, and I think I've got it back to it's original set point. Except that I'm not sure. But since I don't hardly put heavy boost on the car anymore (grandpa-mode driving) should I worry about if the BOV is set correctly now? At any rate, can I assume that having it set a bit tighter is better than having a looser setting?
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09-24-2008, 08:42 PM | #57 |
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Simply put if a bov makes your car blowup you did something 'berry 'berry wong'.
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09-24-2008, 08:55 PM | #58 | |
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I don't care what kind of intake you were referring to. You said an intake won't be as bad for your car as a BOV, and you're 150% WRONG. An intake can cause actual damage, a BOV won't. And explain to me how a SRI is better than a CAI in terms of performance? This is have to hear |
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09-24-2008, 09:25 PM | #59 |
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Nice write up, I've got a GFB fully adjustable stealth fx bov that I can adjust from 100%recirc to 100% atmost and anywhere in between and love the adjustablity of it with the twist of a knob!
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Great write up dave!!
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I said PERFORMANCE, not reliability, etc. Here is MY quote... Quote:
This thread got so childish it's ridiculous. Can anyone discuss or debate something anymore without the name-calling and other High School asshattery? |
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I have a comment.
I had a discussion with Patrick Richard about this a month or so ago. I was opting to running no bov or bpv either, basically a closed circuit with my front mount. I am running a Mitsubishi 18g that I beleive is thrust bearing design. He stated that the only turbos not affected by compressor surge were ball-bearing ones. Is this true? |
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no I really dont want it merged. It will get lost in there. It would just become more, of an FAQ that already goes over most people's heads.
Short, to the point, in your face. That is the only way this info will get out there. I had to make one of these a few years back for CAIs because so many would jump up and down to scream LEANNNNNN!!! at the very mention of a CAI. |
09-25-2008, 06:18 PM | #66 | |
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I honestly dont know what to believe. Like I said, if Corky Bell says that they arent needed, I have a hard time NOT believing him. There is NO ONE on nasioc that knows as much as he does on the subject of turbocharging. But I also, have a hard time 100% believing it, because it goes against everything I have ever thought about it. |
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09-25-2008, 06:23 PM | #67 |
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removed the very much unrelated "debate" to lands far away. OT awaits for those wishing to continue the discussion on that which forever shall remain utterly pointless.
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+1 to Corky Bell.... I have read a couple of his books, and from an Engineering side of things, I tend to believe him on MOST subjects (I specifically remember one instance where exhaust size calculations came into play) so if Corky says that minor compressor surge isn't a big deal, then I wouldn't jump to doubt him; if you think about it, surge is only backflow - compressed air - which is a relatively light, turbulent fluid in this instance - and at lower pressures (which even 16-25 psi are) really can't be all that damaging
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But what would you classify as minor compressor surge?
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He basically said ALL compressor surge is nothing more than an unpleasent sound. |
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09-29-2008, 12:07 PM | #71 |
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I'm pretty sure its the sound of the air going back into the turbo and causing the turbine to almost like sputter, kinda like hitting a wall of air trying to stop it or spin it the other way, thats very hard on a turbine spinning at 20,000RPM.
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09-29-2008, 12:46 PM | #72 |
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20,000? Try over 100,000
I would think it was really bad too. But neither of us knows .001% of what he knows. Basically he said the sound is just cavitation. The sound is not air going BACK into the turbo. The system doesnt feed the air back to it. Think of it this way. You have a bottle. You screw a hose into it. You turn the water on. At some point you cap off the bottle so no more can get into it. The water doesnt back up, it just cant put any more in the system. The pump pushing the water in, will chug and makes noises, because it is trying to push more water in. But its not being forced to spin backwards or even stop. |
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Bump because people are STILL repeating the same stuff, all of it wrong.
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