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01-22-2021, 02:20 PM | #11251 | |
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Updated layout of the room. Red boxes are walls that don’t show up on the appraisal pic:
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01-22-2021, 02:42 PM | #11252 |
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Wow, recommended viewing distance for 4k content is crazy short
The recommended distance for watching a 4K TV is 1.5 times the TV's vertical screen size TV size Viewing distance range (approx.) 43 inch 35 inches (2.95 feet) 49 inch 39 inches (3.28 feet) 55 inch 39 inches (3.28 feet) 65 inch 47 inches (3.94 feet) 75 inch 55 inches (4.59 feet) 85 inch 63 inches (5.25 feet) I'm currently sitting at 12 ft. I need up up my game and upgrade that 55" to 85" yolo |
01-22-2021, 02:46 PM | #11253 |
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blue-sun, what about the ceiling height? Looks low, on the standard 8ft.
Have you tried using blue tape to simulate a 120" screen, see how it would fit? How about the projector? hanging from the ceiling? Back wall? Will it add a hazzard for tall people? |
01-22-2021, 02:51 PM | #11254 | |
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I thought the projector would hang from the ceiling. |
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01-22-2021, 03:50 PM | #11255 |
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My wagers were correct, down in my basement now and drop ceiling is 7 foot and the areas where the beams are 6.5 feet. The back section of lowered 6.5 ceiling is 5 feet wide and runs along the back wall, so projector can’t be mounted there, would have to be more forward than that, so directly above the seats. The “just get an 85” and call it a day” seems to have more merit now.
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01-22-2021, 07:44 PM | #11256 |
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yeah, I think the 85 will be better choice.
Leaves money for some lights Maybe even clean that tv furniture up and just leave the speaker on top |
01-22-2021, 08:44 PM | #11257 | |
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01-23-2021, 03:22 PM | #11258 |
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Hey dudes, amateur question time. I am mounting a soundbar and need to run an audio cable and the power cord and my contractor is saying that is a no no due to interference? Do they make a sleeve shield or something? It is a Sonos ARC FWIW.
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01-23-2021, 03:39 PM | #11259 | |
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You just need to paint the walls a dark color. I did flat medium gray. You want it so when you kill the lights it is pitch dark in there with just the screen visible. I would focus your $ on the audio with dual subs and get 4 Atmos channels mounted in the ceiling or my preference, on the walls with adjustable mounts so if you need to change angles due to a seating change in the future, you can. 2 in front of the seating area and 2 behind the seating area. As long as you choose good speakers and AVR you are going to get that theater experience. You should start looking at the new FALD panels from Sony that just released at CES. You are going to have a killer HT down there if the audio is solid. Edit: What you are running for speakers? Looks like Klipsch stuff on your front channels and sub. Just get a second sub, and Kipsch sides/rears, and your ceiling is ideal for Atmos speaker installation. But I would not drill that ceiling until you nail down your seating location. You will probably have to get a new AVR. Few run 7.2.4. I had to get a Marantz SR8012 as I did not want to run dedicated amps The 8012 is the only one they mfr in Japan, the rest are China. And looking at your room pics for the 2nd time, dude, you have got an ideal room for HT, big time. Yeah your ceiling height is low but I have seen many 50k-100k theater setups in homes with less ideal room dimensions. You will be fine, that is a killer room man. You have got wide walls.FL Sub Panel Sub FR would be what I would do for the front arrangement unless you want to put both subs behind you against the wall firing towards you in the seating area. I really do not think you have a ton to spend. New panel and AVR. 2nd sub, sides and rear channels. Bookshelf Klipsch speakers for the sides and rears will be sufficient with some stands from Monoprice. None of that will be too much $, just the AVR you will be cussing. I cussed, and I got mine at cost. In the end, yeah, I doubt you will want to ever to a commercial cineplex again. 4k discs release 90 days after they are in the theater and you can buy it for less than what it would cost for a family to just buy tickets, nevermind the concessions and you get to hit pause to use the restroom, get a drink, food, or just take a break. And then you can rent, as I do, for about $3 per 4k disc. I have been a film buff my whole life. Ever since 1980 as a small child. Films were an escape from a nasty childhood. Starting as a teen I would go to the theater every single weekend unless it was just the lull times. I did this and bitched the last 5-6 years because ticket prices have become insane and the ADD present and phone interruptions just wore me out. The last couple of years I was buying Cinemark 4 pack tickets at Costco for $8.50 a pop, otherwise it was $14-17.50 if I bought at the theater. $17.50 was for the XD Theater in my cineplex. Even then, the speakers and subs are far away and your home setup will annihilate it. A new Sony panel with Dolby Vision + Atmos in the ceiling = Dolby Cinema. The cineplexes that have a Dolby Cinema theater fester and market the F out of it, and guess what? You can have the same thing at home. i dork out on this ish because after I redid my room I could not believe what I was missing, how I was able to do it all cost efficiently, and I am stoked every time I go in there. My PQ is better than a commercial cinema, and my audio blows IMAX theaters out of the water. 4k discs have surpassed what you can get out of a commercial cinema, any of them, IMO. It was April of 2019 I was at a Marvel film (not a big fan of them btw) and it was the 2nd film in a row where I had an ADD millennial next to me fiddling with their hair and doing smartphone interruptions. For 2 years in a row every single time I would go to see a movie the phones. I was there to escape life, take a break and enjoy a good film. Only to be interrupted by some narcissistic ass hole on their phone. I mean every single film for 2 years in a row. I walked out, said no fin more, and whatever it takes to bring this home. Best investment of my entire life. Vaya Con Dios AMC, Cinemark, etc. You should have done something about this phone crap years ago. They will never see another dime out of me. Last edited by Pre; 01-23-2021 at 04:23 PM. |
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01-23-2021, 03:50 PM | #11260 | |
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8k to me is absolutely pointless. 8k could be a thing if you are running over 100” screen and sit close enough but that’s like being the first rows at the movie theater, something I have never enjoyed. |
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01-23-2021, 04:46 PM | #11261 |
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As long as they're a couple inches apart there's no issue. If they can't be then run the power in romex?
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01-24-2021, 07:59 PM | #11262 | |
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And after proper rear speakers next is the seating. She already hates the mush-mash leftover seats that are down there now, so we need actual seats. Then once those are settled I’ll think about ceiling speakers for 7.1 and projector/85”. Oh and the walls definitely need paint! That might happen first in the spring before everything else! |
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01-25-2021, 09:20 AM | #11263 |
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I'm in the process of putting my Bluray player, shield TV, Berringher Amp and Denon Receiver in a closed cabinet. Looking into cooling options. I'm either looking at some noctua fans install into the back as exhaust and have on permanently or a AC infinity Aircome s6 or s8. Do you guys have any experience with this? Leaning towards the AC infinity as it has a smart feature but wanted to check with you all. Thanks.
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01-25-2021, 10:21 AM | #11264 | |
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01-25-2021, 10:34 AM | #11265 | |
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01-25-2021, 01:00 PM | #11266 |
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01-25-2021, 02:02 PM | #11267 | |
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I just picked up the Aircome T10 for my receiver to keep temps down. Recently upgraded to some SVS Ultra Towers and they are power hungry making the receiver a bit warmer than I would like. It seems to doing the job and hasn't been super loud. I have it on the smart setting and set the max of fans to level 3 out of 6. |
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01-25-2021, 02:23 PM | #11268 | |
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We have a condo with a bedroom with poor circulation (really none) with the door closed. I installed an Airframe t7 intake down low in the wall, and an Airframe t7 exhaust high on the wall. Moves air silently when the temp parameters are reached, and shuts off automatically when not needed. Works really well. |
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01-25-2021, 02:43 PM | #11269 |
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My WAF on a second PB2000 is currently at eye roll status. Good sign.
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01-26-2021, 05:06 PM | #11270 |
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Just ordered one of these Minidsp SHD to use as a preamp. I will miss the sweet toggles and high end 90s build quality of my audio research tube pre, but I think I need to get with the times. Dirac live room correction, 4 channel very high quality DAC (2 for mains, 2 for separate sub integration), fully configurable parametric EQ, crossover, and filtering options. 24bit 96khz ADC for the turntable. Its really hard to mix modern functionality with audiophile sensibilities intact but I am hopeful this is the ticket. Sparked by me measuring my room a bit and realizing I have a 15dB peak at 60 hz. I notched it out and it completely transformed the sound. I guess I had grown accustom to boomy bass. |
01-27-2021, 03:11 AM | #11271 | |
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01-27-2021, 02:05 PM | #11272 |
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All this Aircom talk reminded me I wanted something to keep things cool.
My old TV furniture was open with plenty of airflow. Now the AVR is in and area that is closed on all sides except the front, and maybe the large hole in the back for the cables. Read some reviews about Aircom and how some airflow products actually made the heat worse, as they didnt circulate properly. Anyway, plan is to maybe install fans on the back side, that way any heat is pulled out. Currently running the AVR at my typical volume so I can measure heat inside that area. Ambient is 66F, current temp at 10 minutes is 70F. It it keeps like this, I may not need much cooling after all. |
01-27-2021, 02:56 PM | #11273 |
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As I stated before, I firmly believe my AIRCOM T8 was causing as much heat accumulation and retention as it was mitigation. Since I've removed it and installed cabinet fans for exhaust, I've seen a pretty substantial reduction in both heat and fan noise. I mean, my component cabinet is not too dissimilar to a PC case, so I pretty much set it up like one. AC Infinity makes good products.
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01-27-2021, 03:31 PM | #11274 |
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Movie just ended, 1:30 time.
Ambient temps 66F, temp measured at the AVR area 76F. Looks great IMO. Ill have to redo this during summer tems, when ambient is high 70s. |
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