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Old 11-12-2020, 11:39 AM   #72
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Originally Posted by 340Duster View Post
This is why I don't care. Yes I still abide by anyone's mask rules. Yes I know how to wash my hands. But here are the important facts. Also yes I've had to be in quarantine after contact tracing from a known positive. I had 2 days of a lessened sense of taste, but the army doesn't test unless you have acute symptoms (or ironically are a new trainee coming in).

Instead people are getting quarantined in droves, for something that is doing nothing to the overwhelming majority of the force. Simply put we can't get **** done. To keep treating it like it's the kiss of death is assinine.
I'd like to make 2 points in response.


Point 1: I would agree that treating it like the kiss of death would be asinine, if we in fact had a largely effective and widely available treatment plan with high success rate, and we also had a highly effective and safe vaccine, properly vetted and within acceptable safety measures. We are lucky 2-5 pharma companies are closing in on this, so we might be able to treat this novel virus as a 'flu' in the nearish future. Right now the standard yearly influenza has a vaccine covered by every health insurance or government plan, available in several variants for various health and age populations. We have highly effective treatment plans AND highly effective medications to offset severe complications in MOST instances. COVID has neither at this time, unless you are a high ranking political person or corporate person who can pay to flex the distribution. This isn't judgement on politicians or rich./important people, this is just fact. People will still die, life is a bitch like that. We should not be doing anything to increase that possibility with so many deadly unknowns, and we should not go 'oh well' to the ones who do die, regardless of age or any other factor. These are fellow Americans for God's sake.


Point 2: Deaths going down doesn't matter as much if the new cases keep increasing dramatically. The ratio may be going down for deaths per case; but the case is spiking so it offset and actually increases death counts....so it's still not something to take lightly unless you don't mind family members of the older/underlying condition kind dying. A ratio of 10:1,000 death/case rate 5 months ago may have been worse than a current rate of let's say 100:15,000, but you still have 90 more deaths in the same time frame. Our medical staff and treatments are getting better due to simple experience being shared, but we cannot and should not test the system because of it.


I'll finish off by saying that we are stuck in a lose-lose situation because not enough proper steps were taken early, and the spread went too unchecked and population not properly educated and misinformed early and often by high ranking politicians and leaders. As such, the sentiment is to resist wearing masks, and resist treating this virus properly, and it is leading to the new cases. There is also 'COVID fatigue' in which it has been going on long enough, even good natured people who KNOW the severity are getting lax. My wife among them. The sentiment of 'I just want to get it to get it over with' is not something only one political demographic holds; it's human nature to get mentally tired of stuff like this. It's still important to treat it properly, not just for yourself, but those around you, your community, your fellow Americans. Hell, maybe we would have been able to keep more businesses open if EVERYONE bought in to wearing masks, hand sanitizers, and social distancing right away, NONE of those require complete shut downs except for specific industries. It would have been a small price to pay for many businesses to stay open, but civil disobedience can be as much a detriment as it can be patriotic.
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